LOVE
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Everything about Love.
From the deep and insightful ---- What is love? How does it vary between friendship, family, and romantic interests?
To simply take a breather and enjoy and share your favorite quote about love. The quote can be from a song, movie, book.
Note of Caution: Anytime a person is talking about how THEY view love it is very personal. Love and hate are two of the most powerful and personal emotions that a human can experience. So if a person expresses a standard or view of what they believe to be love, please choose your response wisely especially if you happen to have a different view.
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Permalink Reply by Danette (DMK) on -
Also....JJ,
one of my favorite scenes defining "true love"....
Is Bella's dream sequence and fear of "aging" on her birthday.
What I love most about this scene is all the vast symbolism....
First....Edward is sparkling, stunningly Beautiful with his ageless immortality...in contrast to Bella succumbing to the human condition of aging/dying. She fears her physical self and the natural aging process would impede Edward's love for her. This is the lesson she needs to accept, learn and discover...in New Moon...is SELF LOVE. Bella has to learn to love herself to accept how much Edward truly loves her....beyond her physical, human and aging body. Edward loves Bella beyond her physical self....or beyond his physical needs/wants/desire. Craving her blood is a metaphor for sexual desire...and he is willing to suppress that need/desire for the benefit of Her life, safety and well-being. Edward wants Bella's physical body and to experience it...yet, her well-being takes priority over these innate instincts. Bella's Physical body is a vessel for her soul...and Edward is more interested in her soul and how she makes him feel 'alive' and gives meaning in his life.
Love... is in sickness and in health....and in all the physical/emotional changes as well. God's little lesson and message is that the physical body is just temporary. We will always be physically beautiful to the ones that truly love us(and to God)....despite our physical impairments/imperfections. Bella views Edward as physically beautiful....angelic and god-like...because when you truly love another....their beauty is Blinding and exceptional. Edward's love for Bella transcends time,physical aging and even death.
In new Moon, Edward and Bella both learned what their love meant for each other...and to the extent of its depth/commitment. Remember....it was Bella's 'idea' to become a vampire....while Edward was trying to avoid her becoming like him at all costs.
I truly believe....Edward would have loved Bella to her dying days...if she remained human. To me...that would have taken the story to whole different level....if Bella remained human....despite all the extraneous obstacles(aging, Aro, sickness and giving birth to Renesmee). I think most people would have had difficulty witnessing that relationship. A young, beautiful immortal vampire...in love with a aging, old woman. Possibly handicapped from the Birth(breaking her back). Not as glamorous....or exciting...as Bella surviving to become the vampire....who's equally beautiful and talented as Edward. Maybe, Bella turning into a vampire is true love rewarded through self-sacrifice and benevolence for another.
I often wonder and question...if it was necessary for Bella to become a vampire.....when the extraneous obstacles of "Aro" are removed...and all that is left is the natural aging process/sickness...it which every human relationship eventually endures. Something for you to ponder....:)
Love...
Danette
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Permalink Reply by Pinkie on -
Okay BEFORE you read the article PLEASE read this:
The article is not for those who are offended by things said about Stewart. So if my talking about that or anyone talking about that angers you. please skip this. I am nto trying to upset you. However, I came across this today and it really did define her as I did and speaks to why I do not feel they are in love. Finding how I feel in an article was a surprise that told me I was not alone in my assessment from afar and so as it was in someone’s words other than my own, I thought to post it as a means to say I am not alone in this thinking that it is not love. This is almost completely how I see her. That said, I did think the name calling is rude.
April 6, 2013 · 2:58 am
How Kristen Stewart Keeps Rob Coming Around…
How does KGlue do it, many of you wonder. It’s quite simple, she knows what Rob likes and will respond to, arranges a situation which includes it – and then invites him to take part.
For instance, the other day he was seen palling around Los Feliz with ‘friends’…they were Isabella from Florence and the Machine and her buddy, someone else as well. Isabella is English. Evidently, Kristen’s been busy ‘making friends’ while Rob was away, and they seem to be people he would be interested in – they are either English, or friends of his friends. I suspect she arranged for them to meet up. Poor Rob, the girl moved so close to him he cannot get a break. When they broke up and Rob was selling his home, Kristen was looking for a home in MALIBU – the place where Rob would be because his AGENT LIVES THERE, and he was known to hang out at her house when he didn’t have his own home in LA. Then Rob didn’t sell him home, and Kristen bought one near his in Los Feliz. AND one for her mom…in Malibu. KSlick covered all her bases. She is everywhere he is…or will be…so she can be where she needs to be, to arrange a convenient get together. Agh.
Rob really wants to do his music, he can be shy, so Kristen is attempting to be his end all by drumming up associations with those he would want to hang with, which insures, they hang. She entices him with people and situations – to keep his interest and has done this since the early days when she pretended she wasn’t head over heals and everyone knew she was. Back in the days when Rob was luke warm about having a ‘relationship’ with her (regardless of what has been said, we all saw him claiming to be single and she having fits when he did). I have to wonder, with all the time she spends trying to line things up so Rob will want to take part, how does she have any time to do anything for herself. She doesn’t, it’s all about Robert- she is obsessed and he is constantly being baited. His karma for being such a lug has already taken shape, in the form of Kristen Stewart.
She not only makes friends with all his friends, but she ‘does them favors’…for instance…she got Tom Sturridge a part in On The Road, and she appeared in a video for Marcus Foster
. Question, does she HAVE any of her own friends? Or did she just glom onto Rob’s to be instant cool. If she wasn’t with Rob, none of these people would have ever been interested in her. Ever hear her talk, she’s not that interesting and overcompensates with these mumbled explanations of what she thinks is interesting. While the rest of us are rolling our eyes and waiting for her to stop talking. She used their dog BEAR to keep Rob close, insisting she had a bond with the dog when she was away filming for most of last year and Rob was seen walking Bear – until they broke up, then Kristen started showing the world that Bear was hers also. Except in an interview Rob explained that he went to the shelter to adopt a dog, ‘luckily Kristen was there or I would have adopted all of them’. Unfortunately Kristen was there. Had Rob adopted all of them, they could have all found great homes given Rob is Rob – he could have saved many dogs. Instead, many probably died. Thanks Kristen.
Why his manager, agent, friends and family don’t take the reigns and allow Kristen to be the facilitator for Rob’s interests is beyond me. If more people in his life took the lead, instead of allowing Kristen to run the show, he’d be far better off…he wants to do his music, can any of his people help the guy out or what? People have approached his management to help Rob with stress, yoga, music – unfortunately, his management keeps him away from those who can help him – and allow Kristen full access. Bright people! I believe Robert’s management, friends and family have failed him – and now he is in grave danger of ruining his life staying attached to someone so…desperate to keep him intact.
The monikers KGlue and RPatsy seem the most appropriate. I abhor her traps and his weakness – and anyone who says these two belong together. This is one of the most unfortunate and toxic pairings I have ever seen.
Again I use this to define how I view Stewart only. She so much as told 'fans' this in her MTV interview when she spoke about how well she knew Rob. Her games started long ago, imo
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Permalink Reply by JJ on -
Thanks for sharing Pinkie.
So you think that it is Kristen going after Rob and adapting herself to be whatever he wants her to be. Is that right?
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Permalink Reply by Pinkie on
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Not quite what he WANTS her to be...what she knows would interest him. I think she is very career oriented and not for money but POWER. She wants to be in charge. A Big player and I think she knows presently she needs Rob. Rob has charmed the public in terms of fans and HW. She has burned some bridges. You can flip off the cameras but when you start telling reporters how much better you are than you peers/colleagues? Exactly who would you expect to respect that as you are putting them down!
This is not a new thought. I have seen her this way before the cheating and the cheating did not surprise me. I really do think they are not a couple. I think he is a sweet guy and aware had it not been for her choosing him for that role? His US start may have never happened. I think she knows this too. There is this one quick moment in the MTV interviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivKJFRuYAeo around 5:05 where she says he is insecure. She has been reading him from the start. In another part of that interview that I can not find now, she says she knows him well or better than he knows himself. But even I can look at this guy and tell you he is very insecure in that interview. He is shy and very uncomfortable. Later he would say how he ran out the screening not wanting to see his work. He sat out in a car! Yes, I think Stewart knew him and used him for her fame and is still doing so. Would she marry him if need be? Yep. I see no morals there at all.
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Permalink Reply by JJ on
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Interesting and I can see your point. The thing that I question is, I don't see where Kristen actually needs Rob. She has been working in the industry far longer than him, both of her parents are in the industry, so I can't see what Rob adds to her Power. What does he do for her?
I have gone back and forth on whether they are a couple or not. Like I have said I didn't think they were an actual couple until she cheated and they "broke up". You can't break up if you aren't a couple. I thought they were prefessional during the BD2 promotional stuff and I expected them to quietly (or as quietly as they can with being so observed by everyone) stop seeing each other. I have nothing emotionally invested in whether they are a couple or if they are not, but find the topic interesting.
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Permalink Reply by Pinkie on
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Please forgive me, but the idea of talking about them for some reason is a turn off at present. Perhaps later if ever.
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