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Is it just me or did Bella seem a little too much in kiss with Jacob?  I understand she was trying to keep him safe in her mind but hmm makes me wonder

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She was in loved with both of them, Jacob and Edward... Only she didn't know before that kiss... So I can understand it ... poor girl .... it was difficult enough and complicated to be in loved with Edward, but she was in loved with Jacob and Edward..
I have...some thoughts on this...but I'm at work ARGGG!  So I will get back to you!

cant wait to hear your thoughts.. :)

Hi Sharon! Great Discussion! The Bella,Jacob almost kiss from (New Moon) when Bella went home and realized Alice was there and Jacob came in to make sure she was safe and they almost kissed before the phone rang,really bothered me because Alice was there and that would mean some kind of knowledge that Edward would return (if he didn't think she was dead) Then in Eclipse Bella punches Jacob for kissing her,then later on she tells him to "just kiss me" so he doesn't do something stupid. And yes that was a very passionate kiss and i found it to be very contradictive to the fact that near the end of New Moon she told Jacob not to make her choose because it would be Edward it's always been him.I just feel it was a lead on  and to passionate for someone who claimed her love to Edward. I'm just sayin'..
I agree this is what im saying. plus she seemed to be in some cases happier to see Jacob.
Yes she did!  And she didn't seem to have a thought about the pain that it caused Edward when she was happy to see Jacob or when she kissed Jacob.  I wanted to kick tail when I saw the movie and more so when I read the book.  I mean SERIOUSLY he may not be alive - he may not have a beating heart but he can still hurt!

Sharon...I've had time to gather my thoughts.  Um…sorry this is so long…I couldn’t stop once I started.


In regard to the on screen kiss, I have to agree with the consensus of my sisters…it was no where near as hot as the book.  But I think there was a reason for that. Although Kristen and Taylor delivered some believable chemistry…theirs is just not a romantic relationship…so no smolder there and I don’t think that Summit would allow for any part of the depth and passion between Edward and Bella to be upstaged in anyway by Jacob and Bella.  Edward is the hero…end of story.  Even in the scene when Bella faces Edward and says she “doesn’t know what just happened.”  The speech ends with Bella saying she loves Edward more. That scene on the mountain top covered three chapters of eclipse. On screen there is just not the time to convey Bella’s struggle. 


He was everywhere.  The piercing sunlight turned my eyelids red, and the color fit, matched the heat.  The heat was everywhere.  I couldn’t see or hear or feel anything that wasn’t Jacob. The tiny piece of my brain that retained sanity screamed questions at me.

Why wasn’t I stopping this? Worse than that, why couldn’t I find in myself even the desire to want to stop? That my hands clung to his shoulders, and liked that they were wide and strong?  That his hands pulled me too tight against his body, and yet it was not tight enough for me?   The questions were stupid, because I knew the answer: I’d been lying to myself.

Jacob was right.  He’d been right all along.  He was more than just my friend.  That’s why it was so impossible to tell him goodbye – because I was in love with him, too.  I loved him, much more that I should, and yet, still nowhere near enough. 

Eclipse – Chapter 23, pg 528


In regard to the kiss in the book, at first I was conflicted. I felt terrible for Edward having to endure “watching” the woman he loved not be able to let go of another man.
I felt terrible for Bella, loving Edward and Jacob so differently, yet having to choose between the two of them. And I felt the worst for Jacob, who would inevitability get his heart broken.
When Bella did Kiss Jacob I was elated because I thought...FINALLY Bella could stop warring with herself and just Feel what she had been fighting for so long!
(Yes, Jake did manipulate Bella - but the truth is Bella wanted to kiss Jake too.)
I thought she deserved to know fully that she had a choice of two different lives.
She needed to allow herself to give into Jacob in order to experience "love" between her and her potential human partner. Only thru allowing herself to give into her human passion, to explore all that could have been between her and Jacob could she admit to herself that she had fallen in love with him too. Yet thru it all... it wasn’t enough she knew that she would choose Edward- because she could not live without him.

In some cases she seemed happier to see Jacob, and did not seem to be concerned with the pain that the depth of her relationship with Jacob caused Edward.

I’m not sure if Bella was happier to see Jacob or if Bella’s over all relationship with Jacob was easier because they were both human.  There was not the constant struggle and strain for Bella to be immortal like Edward in order for her and Edward to be on even ground.  Bella and Jake were already on even ground, their struggle was the normal relationship struggles of friends. (for the most part)  I think Bella’s relationship with Jacob was “lighter hearted” because their relationship was natural. 

Every time Bella was soothed by Jacob’s presence…it just highlighted the fact that Edward could not meet all of Bella’s needs.

“But you are human, Bella.  And, as much as I might wish otherwise, so is he…There are holes in your life that I can’t fill.  I understand that.”

Eclipse – Chapter 24, pg 533
Bella’s love for Edward…was never an issue.
At the time Bella was trying to protect Jacob from forfeiting his life in the battle.
How could Bella not feel anything but bliss and gratitude in the moment she allowed herself to give back to the man who loved her enough to keep her together in her darkest hour, loved her although she was broken, and was so fiercely loyal that he was willing to give his life for her without a guarantee that she would love him the way he desired to be loved in return.
The moment of bliss Bella allowed herself with Jacob helped solidify her fate – she had a taste…a vision of what her life could be with Jacob. And even with all of the potential safety, warmth, love and promise – it was not enough to keep her from Edward.

And then, quite distinctly, I felt the splintering along the fissure line in my heart as the smaller part wrenched itself away from the whole.
Eclipse – Chapter 23, pg 529

Great, stephenie Rose!!!!!
thanks WECBR!~ twilight is on the brain...and in the soul...know what I mean? Just can't get enough!

THe kiss in the book was hot... because of multiplt reasons-


1- she did love Jacob

2- She is never really able to kiss Edward, not like that. She was able to let loose and of course Jacob had no reason to hold back so he let her have it. This was like her first "sexual" experience.

3- She's 18, and Jake's hot... hello... of course she felt something, but her love for Edward would prevent it from going any further.


As for the kiss in the movie... I was totally disappointed. It was not hot at all.. just bleh.. it doesn't look like a kiss where someone would realize that they are in love. No chemistry at all between Kris and Taylor. And though I am totally team Edward, I was looking forward to that kiss.

I agree Jarielynn. The movie kiss did not compare to the book!


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