I’ve been rereading the discussions between Trotter and Kealyn on the topic Team jacob? Please explain. ..
I agree with Kealyn that the love Bella feels for Jacob is nowhere near the same as she feels for Edward, but I agree with Trotter that her love for Jacob is a lot more than just friendship. I also agree that Edward is the right choice for Bella. She not only has this romantic/erotic love for him, they also share true friendship, (as Kealyn pointed out, they got to know each other that first summer, though we skim over that only briefly in the book.) But I agree with Trotter that she could have been really happy with Jacob as well if Edward had not returned. Sometimes friendship makes a healthier base for a lasting relationship than being ‘in love’.
I totally dissagree that Bella would have left her husband (Jacob) and kids to follow Edward if he had shown up 5 years later. No way! And Edward would have never shown himself if he had found out that Bella had moved on. He is just that great kind of guy.
Jacob did act like a jerk sometimes but only because he truly believed Bella would loose everything if she stayed with Edward, and yes he is blinded by hate so he cannot see that the Cullens are the good guys, the way Bella and Seth spot right away.
He hates the vampires because they turned his life upside down. They made him into this monster he so does not want to be. Most of his werewolf friends are happy with the shapeshifting, but not Sam and not Jacob.
Bella does love both boys, and there is nothing weird about that. Kealyn is under the impression that everybody can love this way only once. That would give widows and divorcees a very bleek future indeed. You will never love each boy/man the same way but that doesn’t mean the love will be less, just different.
I am thrilled that for Bella, Edward and even Jacob all ends well and they can all live happily ever after. I do love a happy ending, but sometimes all doesn’t end well. Does that mean you have to grieve the rest of your life? Does that mean you have to kill yourself automaticly? Edward would. He is a vampire and he can not adjust the way a human can, but Bella would adjust. After grieving she would find happiness again and it would probably be with Jacob (pre wedding/Renesmee). She would never forget Edward but she would love Jacob just as much and lead a happy life.
Post wedding and being a vampire herself, the grief would stay fresh the whole time because she could not change or evolve. She would however not kill herself. Being a mother would give her the strenght to go on, as it does for so many widows. She would have family support and Jacobs friendship to get her through the pain but she would probably never love again.
Jake used Bella, Bella used Jake… when you are friends you rely on each other, you help each other, that is not the same as using.
Bella can always see ‘her Jacob’ even when he is being a jerk. She doesn’t spare his feelins either and tells him when he’s being a pain. She even hits him in the face with all her might, but that does not diminish her love for him one tiny bit.
She is more protective of Edward, though he can be a pain in the b… as well. She does not tell him off but lets him deal with it in his own good time, she knows he’ll do what is right in the end. She also knows that he would take everything much more to heart tan Jacob would. Jacob is a happy go lucky kind of guy, he’d bounce right back, Edward is prone to pessimisme, he would not recover. That doesn’t mean she loves Edward more. She just knows she has to act differently with both boys because of their different characters. Bella is a smart girl.
The gap? No Jacob would never completely have filled the hole Edward left, but it would have healed enough to go on. If Jacob had left, Edward would not have been able to fill that hole either….
Though Bella was sure of the course she was headed for, she would not have been totally happy. Edward would not have been enough. Jacob brought the sollution in the end. He made it possible for Bella to have it all. He brought her father back into the picture. Jacob gave Bella and Edward every chance at happiness.
Bella got everything in the end, she got both guys, she got all of her family, vampire and human, it couldn’t have gone better than that and it wouldn’t have exept for Jacob.
Teams? For Bella, Jacob and Edward are on the same team, they just don’t know it till right at the end.
I believe Bella is meant to become a vampire. She does not sway from her decisions, others do it for her. In this case Edward when he leaves. Yes, he hurts everybit as much as she does, and yes he leaves her for all the right reasons, but he still did wrong. From a woman’s POV Trotter seems cruel to say Edward deserves all the pain he’s getting, we are much more forgiving than men. But I think Edward agrees with Trotter, so does Jacob, so does Charlie. Nobody can decide what is best for another person without letting that person in on the decision. But being a woman, Bella is much more willing to forgive. She forgives easily except herself. She is very hard on herself, she doesn’t think highly of herself. That is why she so readily accepts that Edward doesn’t love her. That must have hurt Edward just as much as him leaving her hurt her. It takes him a long time to convince her. She won’t even accept presents from him. That is not just because she doesn’t like to get presents, it is because she doubts his love from the start. How hurtful is that? Put that together with the fact that Edward has a lot of doubt wether he is right for Bella as well and you give him every reason to walk away. Jasper was just the cataclist. Trotter is hard on Edward, I’ll be hard on Bella. She has just as much part in him leaving as anybody. Love is not an exact sience. Nobody is perfect. Everybody makes mistakes. But love is allso the most potent force on earth, as the Volturi find out. Love is what matters in the end. I do love a good love story!